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Blunt Decision Reversed
Written by Chet   
Monday, 30 June 2008

Bizarro WSIThe North Dakota Supreme Court, today, filed a decision, reversing the dismissal of criminal charges against the former director of North Dakota's Workforce Safety and Insurance, Charles "Sandy" Blunt.

In a 12 page, unanimous decision, the Court determined the trial court judge had committed reversible error:

The court essentially engrafted an additional element onto the offense of misapplication of entrusted property that is not included in the statute. The language of the statute, the legislative history, and our case law do not support the district court’s conclusion. The focus and purpose of the statute is protection of the owner’s interest in the entrusted property, not whether the defendant received a personal benefit from misuse of the property. In short, “[a] public officer entrusted with public funds has no right to give them away.” 63C Am. Jur. 2d Public Officers and Employees § 265 (1997); see also Teigen v. State, 2008 ND 88, ¶ 35 (Sandstrom, J., concurring specially) (N.D. Const. art. X, § 18, “restrain[s] . . . government actors from gifting public funds or property”).

We conclude the district court erred when it based its dismissal of the complaint upon lack of evidence that Blunt personally benefitted from the alleged unauthorized expenditures of public funds.

Supreme Court Decision [link fixed here and below]

The court characterized the trial judge's application of law as "an apparent misconception of the purpose and scope of a preliminary hearing." 

In this case, the district court implicitly found that, as a matter of law, the expenditure of public funds for gift certificates, food, beverages, flowers, balloons, decorations, costume rentals, ornaments, and gifts was authorized because there was a corresponding public benefit in the form of happier, more productive employees.

The critical flaw in the district court’s rationale is that it has no limits. If Blunt had used public funds to give every WSI employee a new car, or to take them and their families to Disneyland, presumably the employees would have been happier, and it may have been easier to retain good employees. We doubt, however, that anyone would argue it was an appropriate expenditure of public funds. While most of the expenditures in this case were relatively small on an individual basis, the aggregate alleged amounts to more than $18,000. We do not view that as an insignificant amount of public funds, nor would its misuse be inconsequential.

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The Court also found that the retroactive payments for additional salaries to employees who had already been fully compensated amounted to "improper bonuses not authorized under state law."  (If proven at trial.)

I have to tell you that there is nothing in this decision that surprises me, at all.  If it had gone the other way, the North Dakota Supreme Court would have been creating new law.  That would have been something worth a much longer blog post.

Note: For a short period after today, the Supreme Court's opinion  is subject to a petition for rehearing.  Petitions for rehearing are rarely granted.  Even when they are granted, they almost never result in any change in the outcome of the decision.

It looks like Sandy Blunt may still stand trial for a charge of misapplication of entrusted funds.

Watch both sides of this case evolve. 

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Glimmer of Hope?
written by News, June 30, 2008, 01:45 PM
Is there actually one branch of ND Government that (when forced to) will do the right thing? Is there really?

It looks like it. I'm shocked.
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What about Botno Co?
written by curious george, June 30, 2008, 03:38 PM
Will anyone from Botno Co be drawn in? How about the Governor, Ins. Commissioner and AG in a conspiracy charge?

Wouldn't that be interesting?
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written by Pegasus, June 30, 2008, 08:01 PM
How does one misapply entrusted property if you're not a custodian of public funds? Isn't that what the AG Opinion stated way back when Hoeven asked for an opinion on whether he could remove WSI's CEO?

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written by AG should know better, June 30, 2008, 08:59 PM
So since the AG was entrusted with state funds for the payout of the lottery director's annual leave and the leave exceeded what is required for all agencies to abide by can the AG be charged? The salary difference of when the lottery director earned the money and by the time it was paid out his salary had increased over a course of a couple of bienniums...does this count for misuse of funds or entrusted funds?
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since were
written by doug d.riley, June 30, 2008, 09:24 PM
since were talk'n about misuse of funds-i wonder just who paid for the drinks an food when furness an the upper board had their little illegel get together-was it paid by furness with a wsi owned credit card??what about the legislators that had to pay back wsi for their vacation trips paid by blunt did'nt they know about misuse of funds,why did blunt only pay for acouple of legislators vacations and not all the rest-is it because he was just insuring their votes on certin bills.....
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OH HAPPY DAY!!
written by Truth, June 30, 2008, 10:02 PM
Makes one wonder how many other rulings by Wefald are so far out there. The ND Supreme Court was very kind on Wefald by not chastising him but took him to the woodshed in their dissent of his handling of the dismissal of the charges. The unanimous ruling really makes Wefald look incompetent in his ruling. Its time for the people of the area to vote out Robert Wefald.

As for Blunt, its about time he gets his, he deserves this, what goes around comes around. Its time for Blunt's life to be hell much like he put the 80+ employees lives through. He is a mean spirited vindictative man who cares only about himself and getting his way.

Now that the charges are going forward, I guess he won't be in the running for the CEO of the private mutualized WSI that Rick Berg and others inept Republican want. Its my guess that Blunt was staying in Bismarck hoping for the privatization of WSI and the hopes that he would be hired back as CEO. However can a convicted felon (I know he hasn't been convicted yet but one can dream) be a CEO? I don't think he can for a publically held company but not sure for a private company that is not traded on Wall Street. All pure speculation on my part.

Wonder if the Blunt defense fund has earned enough money in interest to pay for these additional lawyer fees that will ensue because of the trial. But Blunt brought all this on himself by his arrogance.
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Truth brings another point to the discussion
written by Pegasus, June 30, 2008, 10:18 PM
What about those lawyer fees? Didn't WSI leave the door open so Blunt could sue for his legal fees? How are they going to distinguish between all the fees incurred to the time of his dismissal related to the charges dropped vs. the ones carried forward? If he is reimbursed for 100% of those fees when a portion most likely relates to the reinstated charges, then I think there's another issue and misappropriation of funds. Sure hope that doesn't happen. Even if it does, who the heck will hold anyone accountable?
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what about
written by doug d.riley, July 01, 2008, 12:39 AM
what about the wsi board paying indviks phone bills,i never did hear anything about invdiks fuel reimbusrtment back to the county,maybe wsi paid that too;as far as bliunt looking at acouple of new charges,i do'nt know just what kind of weight that each one carries but it just might be one of the golden pot of beans that were looking for one of them to spill-put the right amount of pressure on them and they'll sing like a canary-just maybe the finger pionting will findly start,i wonder if blunt is starting to practice saying daa-ty or trying on daisy-dukes just for the fellas-sweety dreams everyone
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Holy justice, Batman! Will there be more charges to come?
written by Robin, July 01, 2008, 05:38 AM
Will Feland amend her complaint to include misapplication of entrusted funds when Blunt paid Spencer sick leave after he was fired? Will the case fold once again if Blunt says he acted on advice of WSI legal counsel? Will others be charged after Blunt blows the whistle? Who will be next to be thrown under the bus? Stay tuned..........
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White collar crime
written by leo, July 01, 2008, 07:13 AM
It was very satisfying to see Sandy Blunt's picture on the front page of the paper this morning as was the reason why his picture was there. Almost immediately, many were surmising whether he would be convicted or elude any consequences once again.

Blunt was responsible for a ton of things since arriving in North Dakota, none of them good. He almost single handedly destroyed one of the best Workers Comp systems in the nation, one that already was in the black with low premiums to employers. With help from some of his Ohio imports, the lives of dozens of good WSI employees were ruined by the intimidation and eradication tactics of their management style. Leaders, they were not. Even with the full support and backing of the Republican party, he failed. He made WSI the laughing stock of workers compensation systems in the country. His antics and his management team kept the agency in the news constantly, none of which was complimentary. Medical providers were not happy with the organization. Injured workers were most certainly unhappy because of the red tape created by the system he fostered.

The agency will long suffer from the effects of Sandy Blunt. A good share of his management team still roam the halls of the agency which still creates a negativity with employees. Undoubtably, some politicians will pay a heavy price for their association with the recent antics of WSI. The board of directors should be totally embarrassed by their actions. Hopefully, this fall voters will eliminate this group.

But the one thing that really upsets me is society itself. White collar crime seems to be socially acceptable. If someone is found guilty of a white collar crime, which is rare, their punishment seems totally inappropriate. A slap on the wrist is common. Society would gain nothing if these people were incarcerated. However, if anyone else were to steal a couple of cases of beer, the resulting punishment is considerably harsher. It would seem if you were to commit a crime in this country, make sure you have a good education and that a good deal of money is involved.

The common man cannot comprehend how our judicial system works. They do not understand the reasoning why society thinks this way. If Blunt is found guilty of wrongdoing, I hope the punishment will send a message to all thinking of white collar crime to think again.
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written by Big Jake, July 01, 2008, 09:51 AM
Finally, the movement towards justice has some direction. I was surpised that the Court ruled, however, the decision was what many thought it would be--unanimous.

While Blunt, et. al. will remain innocent until proven guilty, I predict that what will be the most important outcome will be an improved public awareness as to the consequences of Blunt's and others overwhelming arrogance and the harm that the arrogance has caused. Not to minimize the alleged crime committed but to move to the larger issues of corruption. The connection with the Chamber, Keiser, Wald, Berg, Stenejhem, Hoeven, many top officials at WSI--in other words the potential for the house of cards collapsing. This is not about partisan politics nor should it be. It is about the accountability or OUR government. It is an opportunity for WE the PEOPLE to take an increased measure of responsibility via participation and exercise of our civic obligations. I don't think the Supreme Court deserves much praise as they had little choice but to render the decision that they did. In this instance, black letter law trumped politics----it really was that clear. Wefald, at least I hope, has put himself in a position where the voters can speak loudly when he runs again or perhaps he is smart enough to read the tea leaves. One can hope.

The civil lawsuit and the pending suits should feel a little more encouragement as this case will surely be an interesting vehicle for fact finding----again, the house of cards is now on shakey ground. And perhaps a glimmer of hope for the real issue----giving injured workers what they have coming, something that they should have the right to expect.

As to the apologists, I hope they continue as it is a fun sport to take them on although not to intellectually challenging---but fun nonetheless. For some, dumbing the argument down to a certain level is difficult. But as George Carlin always observed----the folly of fools has no bottom, they continue to be amazing and give so much opportunity. What a Country!!!!!
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written by .MIKE, July 01, 2008, 10:29 AM
Leo, who would you like to see eliminated this fall and why? I would like a list.
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To Mike
written by leo, July 01, 2008, 11:09 AM
The initiative to remove the board of directors will be on the November ballot. The board president has already admitted that the initiative will be successful and even two of the board members have signed the petition to remove the board and return the agency to the Governor's office.
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I have a question for Chet or anyone else that can answer
written by standing tall, July 01, 2008, 11:35 AM
I am wondering, now that the Supreme Court has made this decision is it possible that more information can be gathered and possibly increase the dollar amounts in the complaint? What I mean, is, if for some reason, State's Attorney, HP, State Auditor's office, etc. finds that more inappropriate spending took place, can those be added to the charges? I have a pretty good guess that there's more information that was not initially gathered during the initial complaint that could help the State's case against Sandy Blunt.
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Clarification/correction
written by Chet, July 01, 2008, 11:37 AM
to mike and leo.

The initiated measure is silent regarding the board of directors. I've had some healthy discussions with people about what that means, but I can assure you that the initiated measure does not expressly "remove the board of directors," as leo suggests. You can read the initiated measure by clicking on the hyperlink that says "Click here" just below the words "WSI Initiated Measure Petition" way up near the upper left hand corner of this website.

Frankly, if anybody would have asked my opinion, I would have written the initiated measure differently, but nobody asked for my opinion. Best case scenario, the initiated measure completely neuters the Board. Worst case scenario, there's a big fight over what is intended by the initiated measure, and the Supreme Court decides. Keep in mind that among the things the Supreme Court might look at when trying to figure out what the "legislative intent" was (of the voters) when passing the initiated measure, they might look at information available in public forums that relate to the initiated measure. For example, they might look here to see what people were saying they thought was intended. So, if you care, tell the judges what you intend (in case it passes) by posting a comment here and/or on the stories on the Bismarck Tribune and elsewhere. Then perhaps the lawyers who litigate the issue later will be smart enough to look online to try to figure out what we intend. Keep in mind, too, that the WSI management tools, apologists and P.R. people, as well as the legislators who'd like to see the system stay broken read this too. They'll likely try to overwhelm the online debate because they have more money and time than injured workers have.

Regardless, the initiated measure has the potential to create a system that is better than what we're suffering through now.

I think most of the executives at WSI who were/are part of the problem are gone now, with a few exceptions. What's hard is separating the people who are bad from the people who are being made to do bad things by their bad bosses. I think it would take a special skill to sort that out, and Bruce Furness obviously doesn't have that special skill. Or, if he does, he's sure taking his sweet time to demonstrate that he has it.

Frankly, now that Furness has started holding secret meetings and supervising people who are obstructing open records laws -- to wit, me -- I don't see much hope for him.
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To standing tall
written by Chet, July 01, 2008, 11:51 AM
One thing people keep forgetting is that the criminal complaint is incredibly vague. It does not provide any details about any specifics the prosecutors intend to present at trial. Here's a link to the complaint... (click here).

The writers at the newspapers are just assuming they know what the evidence will be at trial based upon what has been presented at the preliminary hearing, but there is nothing that limits the prosecutors to just the few little morsels discussed at the preliminary hearing. We all know what happens when newspaper reporters ass u me.

Remember -- as the Supreme Court reminded us all of yesterday -- that the only burden the prosecutors had was to present a minimal amount of evidence -- "probable cause" -- supporting the vague allegations in the complaint. They did not have to prove their entire case, nor should they have wasted everyone's time by doing so. They could pick and choose whatever they wanted to present at that hearing.

So, in short, yes, they can include all misapplications of entrusted funds that took place between May of 2004 and March 31 of 2007 that exceeded $10,000, and any from July 1, 2005 to November 30, 2005, that exceeded $500.

If you think you've got something for them to take a look at, I'm guessing the state's attorney's office would take your phone call.

Like I said... Watch both sides of this case evolve.
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Purpose of Initiated Measure
written by Steve Little, July 01, 2008, 12:03 PM
When I drafted the Initiated Measure, at the urging of others, I made up my mind to keep it simple. Rather than repeal several sections of the Century Code, I created new law that, as Chet said, neutered them. That way, I created a measure that fits on one page instead of several, and people don't have to be Philadelphia lawyers to understand it. I, too, have had several discussions about the effect of the measure. I believe the effect will be to have the Governor appoint the Executive Director and prescribe his, or her, duties. The Board will still exist, until repealed legislatively, but will have no power to direct the actions of WSI. At most, the Board will offer advice to the new Executive Director, should he or she choose to listen. The rest of the Measure puts WSI employees back under the State's Central Personnel system, forces WSI to use independent administrative law judges and makes those judges' decisions final. Please bear in mind that when I drafted the Measure, WSI hadn't begun to self-destruct. The Measure is procedural only. It doesn't do anything to affect either benefits or premiums. That will be left to the next legislature.
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Thanks Chet for clarification and advice
written by standing tall, July 01, 2008, 01:14 PM
Okay, that helps me understand. I encourage all "in the knows" to contact the SA office and assist with providing any information you think may be of benefit to their case. Even if you are questioning whether some information you have may or may not help, wouldn't it be better to share that information and let them decide if it will help. For those other 80 some employees that are no longer at WSI, it's not revenge, it's JUSTICE. When I have spoken with a few people that I will not name now, they have been very surprised by what I know happened during the Sandy Blunt tenure. Although I did my job as I was asked to do and felt uneasy about it, and because it was the way it had always been done or what was expected, doesn't necessarily mean it was policy or was right. Needless to say, I am no longer there. If you are a WSI employee or former employee, you understand what I'm writing. Now is the time to contact the State's Attorney's office. Their phone number is in the phone book. I hear WSI is a great place to work and getting better from their radio advertisement. I think this news of Sandy and future proceedings of this case will only improve the ride on the WSI bus.
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If you don't want to do it yourself . . .
written by Oh Boy, July 01, 2008, 02:39 PM
you can still apparently call Jim Long! Somebody called him to report the open meeting violation in May - and he marched back to the AG. Rumor has it, the source that called him was a p.o.'d BOARD MEMBER.

WSI can't do anything else to him. He says he's taking WSI to court anyway.
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To everyone
written by leo, July 01, 2008, 02:51 PM
I apologize for my misunderstanding regarding the board in this matter. Just wishful thinking on my part. If anyone has a petition, please continue to collect signatures. Signatures will be collected at the 4th of July parade in Mandan and at the State Fair in Minot. Please sign a petition if you haven't already.
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Oh Stevie
written by Archimedes, July 01, 2008, 03:55 PM
I checked Rob Port?s and Steve Cates websites a couple times today in hopes I could get their take on the supreme court opinion. They must be doing an in depth scholarly dissection of the text of the Court?s decision because they have yet to put any reference to it on their sites? I am pretty sure they are around because they have some current posts geared toward their intellectually challenged viewers. Maybe Cates is out collecting cans in an effort to raise money to pay Chet the 100K he owes him and can?t post much today? Oh well, perhaps tomorrow they will enlighten us as to how the Supreme Court is in bed with the state?s attorney, state auditor, the whistle blowers, Joel Heitkamp, and the long list of others? Let?s all hope so......
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injured worker
written by olerolle, July 02, 2008, 08:54 AM
One of many wrongs that WSI has finally being held accountable forMAYBE!!! Now maybe some of the other rats will start jumping ship, such as Halverson, Armstrong and even the AG!!!! One can only hope and pray that there will be JUSTICE in the end!!
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Thanks Chet
written by Mr. Ford, July 02, 2008, 06:21 PM
Without you keeping up on these issues with WSI I think alot would be lost. It is about time for someone to face some charges, and we can only hope Blunt starts spreading the blame around. May the truth come out.
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Blunts supporters think a little corruption is OK - Fargo Forum
written by Truth, July 06, 2008, 10:46 AM
There is a good editorial in Sun, July 6 Fargo Forum - here is the link: http://www.in-forum.com/Opinion/articles/207242

As the editorial states (they don't name the names - I am putting them in), Cates, Port, Hennen, Armstrong, Halvorson, Bjornson, Forward, Wahlin, Keiser, Wald, Rick Berg, Judy Lee, Nick Hacker, ND Chamber of Commerce, Indvik, Mandigo, Gjovik, Ripplinger (and the rest of the current and former board members) and to some extent Hoeven and the AG think a little corruption is OK, but like the Forum stated ITS NOT. But the biggest one who thinks it OK is Blunt himself, he is too arrogant and his pride won't let him admit that he is/was just plain mean, vindictative, corrupt and wrong in the opinions of many many former and current employees and the citizens of ND.

Good for the Burleigh County States Attorney, the SAO and the Highway Patrol for seeing that corruption is not welcome in ND.
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written by Mr. Ford, July 06, 2008, 01:24 PM
I noticed this statement in that article brought up by Justice Dale Sandstrom said, "The (district) court essentially engrafted an additional element onto the offense." And ? "A public officer entrusted with public funds has no right to give them away."

So my question is might there be more issues with handing out money at WSI by board members, or upper management that is still there for oh... lets say cell phone bills, vacations to Hawaii, or even some being over paid for trips maybe, and etc.. I bet there is a lot more going out than anyone still knows, that shouldn't be going out.
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WHAT'S WRONG
written by doug d.riley, July 06, 2008, 02:16 PM
WHAT'S WRONG with a little corruption-it's only really the injured workers that it really effects-like the bill that rick berg helped to pass in 2001 that lets wsi make seriously injured workers become telemarketers so theres no need for rehabilitation or permanent disability-so no one really sees anything wrong-yep theres nothing wrong with a little corruption from blunts eyes or wsi's board members and the north dakotas republican legislatures-whats a little pocket change,i mean take a look at indvik-was'nt he paid about 7200.00 dollars for just useing a county credit card for fuel oh so that means that the tax payers get a taste of it too at least wsi spreads it around......
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Joel Heitkamp is a Liar! and a Cheat!!!
written by Score on for The Chin, July 08, 2008, 06:31 PM
FCC Slaps CCU with $12,000 Fine for Airing Phone Call

The FCC has slapped Clear Channel with a $12,000 Notice of Apparent Liability for airing a phone conversation without permission on formerly owned News/Talk KFGO-AM/Fargo, ND. The Commission received a complaint in January, 2007, from Sandy Blunt alleging that KFGO broadcast a telephone call from him without his permission.

According to the complaint, sometime between January and March, 2006, Blunt left a voicemail message on the private cell phone of one of the station's air personalities, Joel Heitkamp, who hosts a radio program called "News and Views." Blunt alleges that on several occasions in December, 2006, the station broadcast his voicemail message without his permission.

In its response, Clear Channel neither denied that KFGO aired the voicemail message, nor claims that it provided the required notice to Blunt prior to any broadcasts. In addition, Clear Channel admits that the "News and Views" program was regularly scheduled and broadcast live by several affiliates.

The agency ruled that a voicemail message left for a station employee is a protected "conversation" that may not be broadcast without prior consent of the caller. It also ruled that even though Clear Channel is no longer the licensee of the station, it does not preclude the Commission from imposing a forfeiture while the station was licensed to Clear Channel. (07-08-0smilies/cool.gif
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Score on for The Chin?
written by S. Fred Wood, July 08, 2008, 07:49 PM
How does that make Joel a liar or a cheat?

If it was coming our of Joel's pocket I'd send him a check. Cause that was truly funny.

Blunt Funny ha ha.

Anyone surprised he went crying to the feds? Waaaaa waaaaa
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oh wait
written by Mr. Ford, July 08, 2008, 08:18 PM
I might be out of line but this is a one party state on recordings. Let alone whom ever the cell phone was owned by owned the message, and should be able to do as they please with it. If Blunt did NOT want the conversation known he should have not left a message. Seems that even Stars have a problem leaving messages that everyone hears. You might want to ask if "Inside Edition" Got fined for playing Alex Baldwins message to his daughter. Seems maybe the FCC might be over stepping the line with this one as far as I am concerned.
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TO Blunt
written by Mr. Ford, July 08, 2008, 08:20 PM
Here is a tissue for your issue!!! smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/cheesy.gif
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No Worries
written by Oh Boy, July 08, 2008, 09:04 PM
Sounds like somebody is getting very angry. Sounds like that somebody is a small, angry person who desires to take a pound of flesh from everyone who "wronged" him.

But then, I guess would be too if I was facing 15 years in jail and my "severance package" (for "quitting") was about to run out next month. Oh yeah, I also suppose I'd also be angry if, as I tried to get a job ? any job anywhere ? that the clusterf[lo]ck I?d made at North Dakota?s WSI made me one famously undesirable hire. I might even be whining to my church friends about how bad I?ve got it.

But then, it ain?t me. My flock ain't clustered.
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written by Score one for The Chin, July 08, 2008, 09:33 PM
What the heck are you talking about OhBoy? I am not Sandy Blunt if that is what you are inferring. And what anger? This is all joy.

Let's see, Heitkamp was found "willfully and repeatedly violating Section 73.1206 of the Commission?s rules" and you want to cry that Blunt is a crybaby? These are Federal FCC rules and Heitkamp violated them ... sorry your ND theory does not wash and America is bigger than this state. Look how you and Chet and everyone else cried about how dare "The Chin" talk to a State Senator the way he did and now you flip on the issue when Federal Rules are violated by the same State Senator. Give me a break!! Add to this that Joel admitted he cut up the call and made it sound different than it was. You make me laugh Mr. ?Chris Crocker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe0FyxQ)? Ford you make me laugh.

?ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and Section 1.80 of the Commission?s rules, that Clear Channel Communications, Inc. is hereby NOTIFIED of its APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE in the amount of $12,000 for apparently willfully and repeatedly violating Section 73.1206 of the Commission?s rules.?

?ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 503(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and Section 1.80 of the Commission?s rules, that Clear Channel Communications, Inc. is hereby NOTIFIED of its APPARENT LIABILITY FOR FORFEITURE in the amount of $12,000 for apparently willfully and repeatedly violating Section 73.1206 of the Commission?s rules.?
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"The Chin"
written by Mr. Ford, July 08, 2008, 09:45 PM
Must be one of the "Mad Dogs" I wonder which mad dog by Score one for The Chin is...(laughing) smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Mr. Ford, July 08, 2008, 09:49 PM
http://iwofnd.tripod.com/

By the way who the hell is Chris Crocker? Is this person of any importance? Do I need to Google them? Or just ignore this.
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To Score one for The Chin
written by Pegasus, July 08, 2008, 10:02 PM
You're right. Fair is fair. If the radio station committed an illegal act, they should be held to account. If a jury of Blunt's peers find him guilty, will you feel the same way? I think the majority of posters here want to see the truth prevail.
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just maybe
written by doug d.riley, July 08, 2008, 10:09 PM
just maybe they should give the money to cates so he can give it to Chet or maybe wsi should put their clamps on it for over payment to blunt because he's going to quack like a duck just maybe if he goes to the joint he'll waddle like one too....
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Oh, Score one for The Chin.
written by S. Fred Wood, July 08, 2008, 10:25 PM
The Chin, should that be the glass jaw?

Mr. Ford, Chris Crocker is the dude that made the "leave Brittney alone" video on you tube, as linked by the Glass Jaw guy. Which is really weird because Blunt looks a lot like Chris Crocker. I mean they could be dead ringers for each other. If Blunt was still at WSI he could dress up like Crocker for a staff meeting. Too bad, that would have done wonders for morale.

As I recall, Blunt was an Emo too. http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/emo
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Thanks S. Fred
written by Pegasus, July 08, 2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks for that link... I see it's not the big ugly bird with the spindely neck. Now I can sleep.
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indvik was paid
written by doug d.riley, July 09, 2008, 02:50 AM
indvik was paid roughly 7200.00 for fuel reimbursement,which he said was for 22 wsi board meetings-now the other board members said that they meet about 4 times a year so where were indviks other eighteen meetings held at,also just how much are they paying them for mileage-85cents a mile- and to top it all off with the burleigh county states attorney saying it is'nt worth taking indvik to trial for a lousy 250.00 bucks-just where did they get this number at--they send people to jail everyday for stealing a loaf of bread--now for the blunt story-for an agreeable sum of money i'll be willing to teach blunt just how to walk across a penitentiary yard with out getting wolf whistles or barking dogs-by just showing him a few films one would be stir crazy with richard pryor and gene wilder the other is tango & cash with sylvester stallone an kurt russell,i just hope i do'nt get confused an show him tootsie with dusty hoffman,ca'nt blame a man for trying to pick up alittle extra cash and also look after the saftey of an ex-ceo of wsi.....
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Score one for the Chin lies a little themselves.
written by Truth, July 09, 2008, 08:42 PM
Take one on the chin, you are the LIAR in your post, re-read the info from the FCC, it does not say that Joel was repeately violating Section 73.1206 of the Commission?s rules - it said CLEAR CHANNEL WAS THE ONE REPEATELY VIOLATING THE SECTION. There is a big difference in saying it was Joel who was the repeat offender and not Clear Channel. Speaking of repeat offenders, isn't that what Blunt is accused of doing - repeately violating state laws?

When did Joel admit he cut up the tape to make it sound different? I have heard no such thing but could be mistaken so please tell us.
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To Chet
written by doug d.riley, July 09, 2008, 09:38 PM
To Chey:i've been asked to ask you why the other si board members say that they only do about 4 meetings a year but indvik says he did 22--also just how did the burleigh county attorney come up with the 250.00-did wsi board break the law by paying indviks cell phone bill-did the taxpayers get their money back from the fuel bill??one more thing how can janet anderson who is an attorney for nillies law firm also be the attorney general for wsi???
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sorry about
written by doug d.riley, July 09, 2008, 10:11 PM
sorry about the mis-spelling but it's supposed to be Chet and the other is wsi...
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"Don't look, Ethel!" But it was too late.
written by Argumentum ad logicam, July 10, 2008, 08:10 AM
Ok, Ok ? I give Truth. Where is Allen Funt hiding? Come on Allen I am not falling for this man. Come on out Allen. Allen? A?A?A?Allen are you there? No, no, no it must be a Jay Leno taping and episode of a Jay Walking then. Or or or ? it could be a taping for an episode of I?m Smarter Than A Fifth Grader. Yeah that has to be it.

Did you really just call someone a liar because the FCC ruling ?does not say that Joel was repeatedly violating Section 73.1206 of the Commission?s rules - it said CLEAR CHANNEL WAS THE ONE REPEATELY VIOLATING THE SECTION?? Really? (You sure you are not about to pop out Allen?) I will give you a chance to take it back Truth and say I am sorry ? ? ? no apology then? OK then, here we go. (I will t-r-y t-o t-y-p-e s-l-o-w-l-y s-o y-o-u c-a-n s-t-a-y w-i-t-h m-e O-K. )

The FCC must attach the violation to the owner of the license. The owner of the license in this case was Clear Channel. Now here is the tricky part Truth, and try and stay with me here, Clear Channel is a ?corporation? and not a ?person.? Clear Channel was not who Blunt called and left the message. Clear Channel was not the one who held the private message for nine months and then cut it up and broadcast it on the air. Clear Channel was not the actual, physical person behind the microphone on multiple days and multiple occasions that knowingly and intentionally pressed the buttons and broadcast the message. No, no that was Joel. As a non-human entity Clear Channel is the one with a Fat Wallet while Joel is the human entity to the equation that actually caused the violation to occur as the one with the Fat Mouth. But for Joel and his willful and repeated actions there would be no violation and no fine assigned to the owner of the broadcast license (Clear Channel).

I know these logical concepts are a little hard for you to process Truth, but I hope you were able to stay with me. If you did not understand the basic logic or the argument then you are in luck because the Internet offers a wealth of information to assist you in basic logical reasoning. Begin where you wish, but I suggest you begin your 101 Logic course with the Argumentum ad logicam (argument to logic) concept, which is often manifested as a Straw Man argument.

As for Blunt, maybe he is a repeated offender and maybe he is not. That is now up to a jury to decide. However, we do know for sure that Joel is a willful and repeated violator and that has been clearly recorded by the Federal Government.

Class is now dismissed Truth and you may go outside and play. As for me, I am going looking for Allen because he has to be here somewhere ? ALLEN!! ALLEN!!
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Huh?
written by Argumenting ad Obscuratum, July 10, 2008, 10:33 AM
Who's Allen Funt?
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Allen Funt - You're on Candid Camera
written by Pegasus, July 10, 2008, 03:15 PM
Don't really get the analogy. Guess I'm one of the sloooowwwww ones too. Thanks 'Score One'. You're the smartest poster on this blog.
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written by Truth, July 10, 2008, 10:42 PM
Yes I am calling Score a liar. The FCC ruling says that Clear Channel has shown a pattern for these types of violations, not Joel as you stated, in my SLOW mind, its a clear difference, but then that is probably because I'm not a former radio personality, a self proclaimed scientiest/geo something or other or don't work at Home of Economy (not sure if this was before my daddy lost a big contract with WSI for surveilance or not).
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written by Truth, July 10, 2008, 10:45 PM
Score, You still didn't answer the question about knowing for sure that Joel edited the tape, I asked you for proof, but you offer none only criticism. So if you can't provide proof, perhaps this is another lie!!!
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To Argumentum ad logicam
written by Mr. Ford, July 11, 2008, 06:43 AM
Before you use the Dash to much more maybe you should read this.

The Dash


Consider the implications for your own life's choices

I read of a man who stood to speak at the funeral of a friend
He referred to the dates on his tombstone from the beginning to the end.
He noted that first came the date of his birth and spoke of the following date with tears,
But he said what mattered most of all was the dash between those years.

For that dash represents all the time that he spent alive on earth...
And now only those who loved him know what that little line is worth.

For it matters not, how much we own; the cars .... the house... the cash.
What matters is how we live and love and how we spend our dash.

So think about this long and hard ... are there things you'd like to change?
For you never know how much time is left. (You could be at "dash mid-range")

If we could just slow down enough to consider what's true and real,
And always try to understand the way other people feel.

And be less quick to anger, and show appreciation more,
And love the people in our lives like we've never loved before.

If we treat each other with respect and more often wear a smile...
Remembering that this special dash might only last a little while.

So, when your eulogy's being read with your life's actions to rehash...
Would you be proud of the things they say about how you spend your dash??
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Infer or Imply?
written by Oh Boy, July 11, 2008, 07:06 AM
There is an old saying, "the dirty dog barks first."

To Infer:
1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.
2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.
3. to guess; speculate; surmise.
4. to hint; imply; suggest.
?verb (used without object) 5. to draw a conclusion, as by reasoning.

infer. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Retrieved July 11, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infer]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infer


To Imply:
verb (used with object), -plied, -ply·ing. 1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated: His words implied a lack of faith.
2. (of words) to signify or mean.
3. to involve as a necessary circumstance: Speech implies a speaker.
4. Obsolete. to enfold.

imply. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Retrieved July 11, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imply]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imply
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Could the corruption be much deeper then just WSI?
written by Mr. Ford, July 14, 2008, 09:57 AM
http://www.bismarcktribune.com...160123.txt
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What Gets Me
written by doug d.riley, July 14, 2008, 01:18 PM
What gets me is that the legislators wo'nt say that they received little vacation trips from blunt,you remember the ones that they paid back when they were found out when they tried to give wsi a 50.000 dollar slush fund-theres also alot more that has'nt come out another thing blunt must have wrote another love letter to stevie an asked for his supreme knowledge of the justice system to help protect him from the unfair treatment from the public people of north dakota,stevie still thinks that the conelly report was truthful an honest-does blunt really pay him or just lets him look at him as he stands posed in the half lit hallway because no-one fights this hard for just a friend.....
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