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Again, why should anyone be surprised Abuse of power. Pure and simple. Until this gets national scrutiny by real journalists, the abuse will continue. Abuse of workers, abuse of anyone who dares challenge the system. Will this issue get the attention of a national news organization? Will other real journalists (besides Chet) dig deeper? One would think Hoeven would pick up the phone asap and call off the dogs, unless he wants to explain this to a national audience. |
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News, News and more News Abuse of power, pure and simple. Maybe AG Stenehjem is just too busy preparing his remarks for Rove's indictment, oops, induction into the Scandinavian Hall of Fame to pay attention to the actual law. I can tell you all that I have read more investigative news on Northdecoder than I have in any newspaper that I read...that is ALL ND online news, every day. Especially on the WSI scandal/campaign of lies. It is/was common practice to read an posting on this blog and walaa...the next day or day after there would be an article in one of the ND rags, less investigative and more fluffy of course, on the very same topic. The Forum was pretty good for using Northdecoder as a source and reference for its articles. Doubt they will get a Subpoena...I wonder about Cates and the Beacon...oh ya...that was just plagiarized garbage, never mind. Maybe now is a good time to file that collection suit against Cates for the 100K. That could help defer some of the costs for your work. Not saying you are going to comply, I would fight it tooth and nail, but it would make for interesting news...if anyone had the balls to report on it. We're with ya Chet...time to play hardball. Have you contacted the ALCU? I am a card carrying member...bet they would be interested in this one. ![]() ![]() |
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... Everyone must have forgotten that wsi really stands for the (UNTOUCHABLES),they meaning(WSI)can bend paperclips with their bare hands,they meaning(WSI)have judges from the alj's all the way top the top in their pockets,they are most likely the only ones in the whole state of north dakota that have built bullitproof building,no-one has even question WHY wsi still has FIVE of the AG's top bulldogs still guarding the wsi doors,no-one ever even questioned why five or six of the long time board members did'nt even regain their seats,no-one ever questioned why top wsi personal recieved hugh bonuses,but say their in the hole an need to raise premiums,no-ones allowed to look at the safety grants until wsi has found someway to bury them or to clean them up,wsi only fears two things-wsi fears if their beloved hoeven runs for senate an somehow wins then a new governor just might have a set an demand a full-blown investigation into the long hidden working of wsi,the only other thing that wsi fears an fears the most is CHET,for he's the only one that has had a set,he's the only one that has dented an tarnished their armor,an he's been the only one thats been able to gather enough folks with enough voice to be able to bring in outside attention,if wsi can shut-up CHET,then they would have to worry able any lawsuit from Mr.Long-i for one still hope that Mr.Long cleans their clocks...as for cates,he's going right down to the court house first thing monday morning an fileing a subpoena on himselve an takeing it right over to the tribune to show them that he recieved one... |
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strategy I think Bakke is very afraid of the information Cates would have to turn over if he were subject to subpoena. He will want to argue 31-01-06.2 applies to Cates, but he isn't 100% sure it's a winning argument. So, he's subpoena'ing you, to preemptively force Long to make the argument on his behalf -- that blogs are news organizations under 31-01-06.2. That's what I think. |
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further... Cates himself doesn't want to have to be the one to argue blogs are news organizations, since he said he'd pay $100,000 to the first news organization who proved he published falsehoods, which you did ... and Cates said blogs aren't news organizations. Okay, so that's a stretch; I'm sure that's not what Bakke's up to. But it is kinda funny. |
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Well actually. NDIRF only insures local governments, well that's the bulk of their coverage. The state has it's own little risk pool funded with our tax dollars. It's managed by The Risk Management Division (of Hoeven's OMB). Which rents office space from, drum roll please, WSI. The Director of RMD is a guy named Tag Anderson. Wait, where else have I seen that name? Isn't he one of the people named in the "Long law suit"? Yep, no other. And no, he is not being sued as the head of RMD. Anyone know why he is named? Don't tell me you are going to let the Subpoena silence you. Purpose of the Subpoena? |
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... In your 2 words you could add " and the horse you rode in on." Not surpising but troubling. As a layman, I don't know if the law has kept up with technology regarding the internet, blogging, etc. and the status of just who is regarded as news media, etc. Regardless of that, you are clearly being punished as has anyone else who has stirred the pot regarding WSI. As an aside, it has always troubled me that the AG and other agencies retain outside counsel using taxpayer dollars. Wayne has a large and supposedly competent staff that are on salary. Why can't they be used for what they have been hired and trained to do? The answer is always political---not pragmatic. It will be interesting to watch the progress of the Long case, as well as the appeal of the Blunt case. A real test of this Supreme Court. Considering the attitude of the country and at least as much here in ND, it will be telling. Call the ACLU. Engage them in what they do best. It seems to me that this is a really big deal. Perhaps an important precedent. Way to go Wayne!!!!! Perhaps you have consulted with Rove. He certainly knows how to kick liberty in the teeth and for the most part get away with it. Fine fellow. Doesn't it make us all proud to be Americans??? The usurpers of liberty never sleep. Eternal vigilance is truly our only defense. |
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Flexing their muscle WSI, Stenejhem and Company are sweeping as far and wide as possible because they can. Who's going to stop them? They need to destroy Long and they'll spend as many $ and leave as many bodies in the wake as necessary to achieve that goal. What will it take for justice to prevail? Seriously, what can be done???? |
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My Source for North Dakota News For the record, I am not a resident of North Dakota and I do not follow news events in North Dakota very closely. However, when I seek to get news about what is happing in North Dakota, NorthDecoder.com is my primary source of information. From my perspective NorthDecoder.com clearly falls within the purview of NDCC § 31-01-06.2 |
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Interesting question of statutory construction Hey Chet: As a lawyer, I find your use of the word "thugs" to be inappropriate. Thugs knock down doors in the middle of night. They do not use certified mail and the Court process. Especially since you are schooled in the law; and not without resources to respond and protect your interests. In an orderly, civil society, disputes are resolved through the judicial process -- which involves lawyers making their clients' cases and then letting a co-equal branch of government decide. This is not thuggery. But all of that is beside the point. I agree that it appears that you qualify under all of the statute except the following language: "and was employed by or acting for any organization engaged in publishing or broadcasting news . . ." Were you employed or engaged by an "organization." Can a sole person be considered an "organization." I do not know the answer, but I would be interested in seeing how the Court resolves this issue. (Of course, the Court could simply skip the issue about whether the statute applies to you and simply assume it does, but order you to disclose the material nonetheless . . . . ). Keep us posted, and good luck. JL |
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Carly Simon You're so vain Well Senor Lock. When Mr. Editor in Chief said "We -- and I truly mean "we" -- are an organization." I thought he included me. I've provided some news, I've even sent him a few dollars to further the cause. I hope, in some small way, Chet considers me part of the organization. Even if it is is just as a bur under Adam's saddle. Speaking of news, I'm sure y'all heard about Blunt's briefs being on the Supreme Court's web site under "October happenings." I wish someone who took B-Law in college would analyse the briefs. PS. I can't believe Adam doesn't tell us how the net convention was. |
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... you know it must be really nice to be able to bring all your friends with you to a new job out of state,to be able to double dip on your expenses,to have your best friend set up a safety grant deal that enables your so called organizasion to give money to state legislatures,to hold parties for them,to come up with fake vacations for them just so that they will pass curtain bills that kick injured workers to the curb,but you cry like a two year old at the store because your mommy's not going to buy you that sucker,when you get busted,you bitch about having too give 2000 dollars to the homeless an have to do 1000 hrs. of community service-when the trurh should have been ten years with bubba as his little candy girl,but this is justuce,the injured workers get to lose everything they workered so hard for-families-homes-life,the injured get to go on welfare after they've sold everything they have owned,but politicians butt suckers get unemployment,200,000 thousand dollars,and his manacured hand lightly slapped,thank god theres no corruption in this state....... |
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To Fred We all need a burr in our saddle from time to time to keep us honest. Thanks for the reminder, my apoligies for not reporting back to you on Netroots Nation. I was running all over the place for a while visiting family and forgot to mention the rest of the story on my experience. I had a blast while I was there. I managed to meet many people whose work I read on a very regular basis, including many members of the hateful Nazi site, DailyKos. I said "Hi!" to Kos, met David Waldman, whom I email on a semi-regular basis, Met Bill in Portland Maine, the author of CHEERS and JEERS, as well as his partner, Common Sense Mainer(Michael Moore, no relation). I also met several statewide bloggers, including Shannyn Moore, the Alaska radio host who was threatened with a lawsuit by Sarah Palin for suggesting that she may have resigned as Governor of Alaska because of federal investigations for embezzlement. We ended up trading a few war stories and have kept in touch somewhat. On top of that I played trivia with Congressman Jerry Nadler(D-NY-8 ), and got an autographed copy of "Howard Dean's Prescription for Real Healthcare Reform" by Governor Dean himself. In all the conference was great fun and I was honored to be a part of it. |
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To: J. Locke As a lawyer myself, I found your comment interesting if a trifle naive. Every May 1st, lawyers and judges dance around the Maypole congratulating each other on what a civilized justice system we have. Gone are the days when ordinary citizens settled their disputes with fists or knives or guns. Now we use legal process, nice and neat and tidy. Of course, in the old days when people dealt directly with their adversaries, it was usually one against one. A single man against a mob wasn't considered sporting. If you've ever litigated against the State or an insurance company or a large corporation, you've learned how lopsided "justice" can be. Lawyers like Chad, who champion the rights of the comman man, should be carried around on peoples' shoulders in torch-lit parades. Others, who use both the legal system and the political system to prey on the weak, are in fact thugs. By the way, the word derives from India where assassins used knotted cords to silently strangle their unsuspecting victims. It still occurs today, although usually with subpoenas instead of knotted cords. |
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Organization Here's one definition of an oranization: A group of people intentionally organized to accomplish an overall, common goal or set of goals. Business organizations can range in size from two people to tens of thousands. Seems to me that northdecoder has at least 2 people intentionally working toward a common goal. |
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... This is a ploy they use, for one of the whistleblowers who settled they sent the exact same request. They want to wear down people so that people will just say forget it and give up - a tactic used by WSI. I am curious though Chet, as an attorney how would you prosecute (not settle) the case (I have no idea what you specialize in)? Have you ever sent someone a subpeona with outrageous expectations during the discovery process? Even the Bismarck Tribune/Fargo Forum have a disclaimer on their websites explaining that information may be turned over from commentors under court orders. WSI is a corrupt organization and until John Halvorson and Jodi Bjornson and the other attorneys get out of there nothing will change. While Jim Long was part of the corruption, he (or so I heard) did turn around and now wants sympathy from many of us (where was his sympathy for those he ran off when he was a MADDOG?????), but should he be rewarded handsomely for having done to him what he did to others? I'm torn on that part. |
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