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Your weekly dose of Joe Biden-9-22-08 and a note to you Chicken Littles out there... PDF Print E-mail
Written by Adam   
Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:17


To put my two cents down on the "Obama should pull out of North Dakota" meme, I have to disagree.


here's the case to stay:

1.)We're looking at two or three polls after a tumultuous week.  It does show a trend, but it's following the national numbers.  Voters need to be fully educated on Palin and reminded about that other guy, McSame.  

2.)Obama has staffers in Texas.  You heard me, Texas. They can pull some from there if they really need it.

3.)Obama raised $65 Million in August.   They have cash.

4.)Media in the state is cheap, so is office space. 

5.)The map. Over the weekend things returned to where they were pos-DNC on fivethirtyeight: New Mexico is solidly Obama,  CO is lean Obama, OH flipped to tilt Obama, VA flipped to tilt, FL is back on the edge of a razor from lean McSame(now tilt McSame), as is NV, and MI and WI are now lean Obama from being toss-ups.  Meaning:by my count, Obama has 265 EVs in the lean or base catergories.  There are 5 swing states now: NH, OH, FL, VA, NV.  All are 5+ EVs.  McSame literally needs to run the table to win. 

ND is now a lean McCain state. It was always considered a lean McCain state.  It doesn't mean we can't win it, and it doesn't mean that Obama needs to put all the eggs in the basket of the swing states and not expand his horizons for future growth of Democratic support. 

Calm down, the sky is not falling.

Now get out there and win this state!

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Johnathan said:

The sky has fallen
At least for us. It's not "should" pull out. It's "has" pulled out.

Barack could have at least kept his offices open for volunteer staff, lord knows he's got the money... But I guess he's really just another poll addict.
September 22, 2008 | url
Votes: +1

akubik said:

word on the street...
They are keeping at least one staffer and coordinating with the coordinated campaign across the state out of the four main offices. A plan is being developed and volunteers will be notified. Early days yet, don't freak out. Think about how much more satisfying a win in ND will be knowing that it was due to volunteer organizers and the netroots? Can I get an amen on that?
September 22, 2008
Votes: +0

Truth said:

Speaking of chicken littles or little white lies
So Biden says "Come back to the area where my helicopter was forced down, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are..." leading people to believe his helicpoter was shot down when in reality it was forced to land because of a snow storm which was confirmed by John Kerry who was on the helicpoter. I guess that Biden's running off at the mouth is starting once again as he repeated this not once but twice in the last couple months. Dems should be so proud
September 23, 2008
Votes: +0

Adam said:

im confused...
All he says is that it was forced down, which was exactly what happened.

If the copter was shot down he would have said "where we were shot down"

But Sarah Palin says defending McCain:

HANNITY: Do you believe that the fundamentals of our economy are strong?

PALIN: Well, it was an unfair attack on the verbiage that Senator McCain chose to use.
September 23, 2008 | url
Votes: +0

Adam said:

And really
The economy is tanking,

Foreign policy crisis

Pakistan's political upheaval


This is where you put your stake in the ground?

Oh, and McCain and Palin have NEVER embellished their records...
September 23, 2008 | url
Votes: +0

Truth said:

Biden said it the way he said it to make it sound like he was shot down or forced down by some nefarious reasons. In my opinion, he deliberately said it that way because he wanted people to believe our enemies forced him down to make his seem tough. I believe Biden knew exactly what he was inferring by his statement, that is unless he plagarized those words.
September 23, 2008
Votes: +0

Ab2kgj said:

Ok, then lets follow that logic...
Over to the Palin/McCain McCain Palin ticket...

Palin did not say"thanks, but no thanks" to the bridge to nowhere, she did not kill it. Congress killed it and she kept the money and built a road to nowhere. She's embellishing her resume...

John McCain did not invent the blackberry, he doesn't even know how to use it. His staffers are embellishing his resume.

John McCain flat out lied when he said about the economy, "Sen. Obama has declined to put forth a plan of his own," He has had one since this time last year. He is not putting his own plan out until he can consider Paulsen's proposal, as is McCain. He has discussed economic issues with as much detail as McCain has.

Keep in mind that these weren't just leaving facts out, but getting facts wrong. Biden at most left a detail out that wasn't a huge secret to begin with. The chopper was in fact forced down, for whatever reason, it was forced to land in the mountains of Pakistan. You are assuming that he meant some nefarious, and you know what happens when you assume...
September 23, 2008 | url
Votes: -1

40 years in the Dem NPL said:

I think Jim Maxon said it best
They had reached a point of diminishing returns. We all wondered what 50 staff could do in a state this size for four months. So, they gave us two months and recruited volunteers and identified voters and provided "air" support in the form of TV ads.

We just have to harness that effort, focus it and not only will we win this election, we'll be building the machine that will win the 2010 election, the Obama re-election campaign in 2012 ... upward and onward folks. Be not of faint heart.
September 23, 2008
Votes: +1

Truth said:

Not assuming anything
I'm not assuming anything, Biden's comments were during speeches about the region where Al Qeada is thought to be at and he chose his words carefully by saying forced down to infer they were in danger. Why didn't he just say we were forced to land because of a snow storm? Why, because I believe he wanted to make it sound more sensational than it really was.

Biden knew what he was saying and how he wanted people to take it just like he said the ad against John McCain was a terrible ad and is now backtracking. This guy runs off at the mouth and is a liability because you never know what he will say next.
September 23, 2008
Votes: +1

Truth said:

Biden Again
So now Biden apparently supports clean coal for China, but not for the United States.

"No coal plants here in America," he said. "Build them, if they're going to build them, over there. Make them clean."

"We’re not supporting clean coal," he said of himself and Obama. They do, on paper, support clean coal.

So the Obama folks were up in arms by saying that McCain doesn't support agriculture, well there is also coal in western ND, so why aren't they crying that Obama doesn't support coal?

Did anyone catch the Matt Lauer interview where Obama chastised Biden for speaking too soon on the AIG bailout. Appears that Obama was chastising McCain for his comment on the AIG bailout when Biden said the same thing as McCain. When Matt pointed it out, Obama showed his elitist attitude with his comment "Now hold on a second"

Another daily dose of Biden only from the other side.

September 23, 2008
Votes: +1

Adam said:

I don't support clean coal here, but I don't think they have a choice in China.

We have monstrous wind and solar potential that if fully harnessed could power nearly the entire nation. China doesn't have that luxury. They have a massive population, which is growing every second. They have massive coal resources and need to develop the technology quickly.

America is not developing that quickly and doesn't need to use coal as much. We can invest in wind and solar and get a much better return.

"The man who sees absolutes where others see nuances and shades of meaning is either a prophet or a quack."
-Keith Olbermann

September 23, 2008 | url
Votes: -1

Chet said:

Fact Check
Here's a link to the "FactCheck.com" website regarding the recent clean coal attack ads by the McSame campaign: Click here.
October 01, 2008
Votes: +0

nimrod said:

Biden too sophisticated.
If you talk to the economists who work with climate modelers, clean coal is not a US problem, it is a world problem. As Biden was quoted on factcheck, our health is affected by air pollution from dirty coal plants in China, not just air pollution from U.S. coal plants. The US can crank down on coal emissions, but the decrease will be more than offset by increased coal emissions from other countries which do not regulate coal burning power plants. The US needs to develop cleaner technology, make it economical, and export it to rest of the world. That seems to be the point of Obama's clean coal plan.
October 01, 2008
Votes: +0

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