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You may have seen this already (including on our Facebook wall where we sometimes post bonus materials), but I'm gonna share it again here on the main page, because it's important: Rick Berg was interviewed last week by Jim Shaw at KVRR in Fargo. During the interview, Berg said he supports imposing the opinions of politicians into women's complex medical decisions: In case you missed it, I'll give you the transcription, too: SHAW: Why would you force a woman who has been raped to have that baby? BERG: You know, like I said Jim, my position is pro-life, and I care about the unborn and I feel that’s really where we should be in our policy. SHAW: What would the appropriate sentence be if abortion was illegal and a woman did have an abortion? BERG: I'll leave that up to others to come up with that. SHAW: Should we put her in jail? Should we fine her? Do you have any thoughts on that at all? BERG: Those are things that need to be worked out through the legislative process. If you're following along with Berg, what you hear the Fargo slumlord saying is: As a legislator, I want to impose my legislative opinion on women as they make medical decisions with their doctors, and if they disregard the imposition of my opinion (along with my many other old, white, teabagging legislators) there should be a punishment imposed on the women, but I'm not willing to talk about what that punishment should be, because "that's up to others." Presumably others with some legislative qualifications. Which Berg clearly doesn't feel he has. (And if that's the case, why is he funning for the Senate?) Well... when Berg was in the North Dakota state legislature just a few years ago, he told us -- by voting -- what punishment he thinks should be imposed. When he voted for House Bill 1489 (2007) along with only 19 other radical fundamentalists (all but two of whom were men) in the North Dakota legislature, he gave us a pretty good idea what he thinks the punishment should be. Here's what that legislation, which luckly failed, said: Intentional termination of human life - Preborn children. A person is guilty of a class AA felony if the person intentionally destroys or terminates the life of a preborn child. A person that knowingly administers to, prescribes for, procures for, or sells to any pregnant individual any medicine, drug, device, or other substance with the specific intent of causing or abetting the termination of a preborn child is guilty of a class AA felony. A person that intentionally or knowingly aids, abets, facilitates, solicits, or incites a person to intentionally destroy or terminate the life of a preborn child is guilt of a class C felony. For purposes of this section, "preborn child" includes a human being from the moment of fertilization until the moment of birth. North Dakota House Bill 1489 (2007) (emphasis added) Interestingly, you'll notice there was no exception in Berg's 2007 legislation for cases where the pregnancy puts the life of the woman in jeopardy. So Berg has apparently flip-flopped on the "woman in peril" issue since 2007. But in 2007 Berg thought it should be an "AA Felony" to get an abortion. The penalty, in North Dakota, for a AA Felony is... Class AA felony, for which a maximum penalty of life imprisonment without parole may be imposed. The court must designate whether the life imprisonment sentence imposed is with or without an opportunity for parole. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 12-59-05, a person found guilty of a class AA felony and who receives a sentence of life imprisonment with parole, shall not be eligible to have that person's sentence considered by the parole board for thirty years, less sentence reduction earned for good conduct, after that person's admission to the penitentiary. NDCC § 12.1-32-01 (emphasis added) So... Berg apparently believes a rape victim who consults with her physician and then elects to terminate the rapist's product, should face the possibility of spending the rest of her life in prison, with no possibility for parole. "Terminate the consequences of your rapist's actions and spend the rest of your life in prison." I bet that makes sense to a slumlord like Rick Berg. And if you work in a health care facility where a rapist's pregnancy is terminated, or drive the "get-away car," don't worry; you'll only be facing the possibility of up to five years in prison and a five thousand dollar fine, because it's only a C Felony for you if Berg becomes a U.S. Senator. Five years in prison isn't so bad, right Doc?
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Steve C.
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Berg is .....in my honest opinion...a pice fo shi%$#!!!!! Sorry for the profanity, but he is the worst of the worst! |
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Typical Repuk So Rick Berg now has joined the other wingnuts of the far right in imposing his religious philosophy on all people irregardless of their personal beliefs. The war on women from the Republican party is real. Hopefully (but I seriously doubt it) ND women will wake up, look as this and consider it far to extreme for ND and send Ricky packing. Too bad we have not seen this bit of information in western ND. But then what do you expect of the TV news people and newspapers out here. |
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... Star, pay attention. Berg does not give a damn about this issue. It is pure right wing bible thumper hype. You really can't flip-flop if you don't have a belief other than political expediency. This is true of most of this bunch of barbarians. This brain-dead pandering for several decades has worked well. A mind-less base has evolved who fear thinking and hold fast to beliefs with no intellectual or spiritual basis. Allegory is a concept that is just not comprehendable. So here we stand like a deer in the headlights and let them get away with this crap. Now let's not offend anyone as it might cost us a vote. You damn fools, this bunch is not going to vote for anything rational no matter what. Exposure of the insanity is the only cure. Facts are the real political weapon that they just can't handle. The next time you hear anyone speak this crap, set them up and expose the lies. It is real fun to send them packing with their tail tucked between their legs. The real power of this is what is does to those around who has just been stung. Timid is an understatement. If you hold your values and beliefs as reflective of the kind of country you want---PLEASE JUST SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!! |
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... Big Jake, you are so right. However, the point of the response was that, as Bill Maher says so often, the Republicans live in a bubble and you just cannot get through to them. It is a mindless base and they just don't get the message. Where I live, you could run a pig for a state government position and the pig would win if it shows up on the ballot as Porky Pig (R). Does not matter whether or not the pig is qualified for the position or not. (Obviously not) 70% of the people would vote for "it" cause it has the "R". I have had these discussions with my neighbors and friends and it is so frustrating. They believe what they hear on FOX or other right-wing media especially Rush, and nothing is going to change their minds. You could place all the facts in front of them, show them documentation , it does not matter. Maybe this is a sign that our educational system is failing because we do not have a crop of critical thinkers out there at all. |
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