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North Dakota's Shrinking Population PDF Print E-mail
Written by Chet   

ExitForum Communications reported, yesterday, that North Dakota should celebrate its massive population growth:

North Dakota posted its strongest population increase since 2000 this year and continued a streak of gains now seen in four of the past five years, new U.S. Census estimates released on Monday show.

As of July 1, 2008, North Dakota’s population had reached 641,481, an increase of 3,577, or 0.56 percent, over the 2007 estimate.

Fargo Forum

Great news for North Dakota, right?!?

Well... sorta.  But not really.  It's more... just... well... information.

Think about it this way:  There is a natural increase in population, right?  If there weren't, there would still only be two of us, right?  So what is the "rate of natural increase" for the population?  I suppose there will be differences of opinion on this, but some would say the average rate of natural increase in population for the United States is 6 per 1000, or .6%  Using the Fargo Forum's numbers, we had a population of  637,907 in 2007.  That increased 3,577 (or .56%, according to the Forum -- which is, according to KFYR-TV's new math, "less than half of one percent.") in 2008 to 641,481 [someone needs to check their math; these numbers don't add up].  If North Dakota were tracking with the national average, the population of North Dakota SHOULD HAVE increased by .6% to 676,178. 

But it didn't.

Instead, we've had yet another "unnaturally low" increase in population.  Less unnaturally low than before, mind you, but still unnaturally low.

So what does our media give us?  A story about how our fortuitously positive oil-industry economy has given us "record breaking" population growth.  That's like celebrating an accidental decrease in the disturbingly high number of people leaving the state.  Yeah, great, things aren't as awful as they could be.  We're not losing as many young people as we've lost in the past!!!  Let's throw a party!!!

Trust that John Hoeven will take credit for the decline in how far behind we are.  He put the oil in the ground in northwestern North Dakota, after all.


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iwofndadvocates.com/blog said:

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I read that article in the Forum the other day, and all I could think was…yes these are estimates not actual hard facts. Let alone I also take into account where the article came from a newspaper in the state of North Dakota. In fact, after reading the article I thought wow I just spent minutes of my life again on some BS story created by a paper that has no credibility. Lesson learned!!
 
December 24, 2008 | url
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nimrod said:

i like the way you think
A short trip to the US Census Bureau web-site was all that was necessary to understand that the Forum article about ND population "growth" was 95% BS. Our population was estimated to have grown by about 1/2 of one percent from 2007 - 2008. This was among the lowest growth rates for states with growth. Our population was static between 2000 and 2008. Yawn. I propose we re-name the Fargo Forum the Fargo Yellow Rag. Yellow journalism at its best.
 
December 27, 2008
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Big Jake said:

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The Forum and all the other media outlets are not news organizations but mostly arms of the Chamber and other political and business interests. They are little more than cheerleaders. It is laughable to debate whether or not we have had a 1/2 % growth or not. It will be very difficult to expand our population absent real wage adjustments. Wal Mart is operating at about 140% labor capacity and the oil patch (with relatively good wages) is in decline brought on by the huge drop in oil prices(recovery will come but when is the great unknown)

The real story is why our population has shrunk since 1930. (680,845) That has always been the story but is not told because no one is willing to take the time to seek out the facts. Absent knowing the facts, it is just not realistic to offer solutions. The same is true with the real financial condition of households, and our businesses and our government. Absent real knowledge, the solutions offered are either weak or without any real substantive value. With our nation at a critical juncture, it is time that we seek the cause of our condition and then find solutions. We can hope that the new President will do so---as it is obvious that neither party is capable of separating support for those who make the big campaign contributions and really looking at just where we are at.
 
December 29, 2008 | url
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nimrod said:

News link
Check out the link in the ND News box captioned "La. leads in population decline." Will this appear in the Fargo Yellow Rag?
 
December 31, 2008
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Chet said:

Confession
I saw that story in the Bismarck Tribune this morning. Not the exact same story, but one with the same general info. I don't remember where it is, but I'd say it's on about page 2 or 4 of the Dakota section. (That's a total guess.) It's in the far left column of the left page, in about the middle. Very short A.P. blurb.

Here's a link.

But you're right. It's not really news unless it fits into the Hoeven/Zaleski theme.
 
December 31, 2008
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