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Crosby Journal Editor Calls For "Economic Disaster" Declaration In Bakken PDF Print E-mail
Written by Chet   
Wednesday, 04 January 2012 14:47

Western ND

...But Doesn't Want You To Read About It Here

This is an awkward blog post to write, and I'll tell you why. The newspaper based in Garrison, North Dakota, recently reprinted an editorial from "The Journal" of Crosby, North Dakota.  The editorial was written by Journal editor Cecile Krimm.  I thought it was pretty well done editorial, it appeared the paper was willing to have it reprinted elsewhere, and so I contacted Cecile to ask permission to reprint it -- in its entirety -- here.  

First I sent an email explaining who I am, what website I write for, etc. Then I called, thinking maybe the internet runs slower up in Crosby, or maybe the email goes to their webmaster, who could possibly be on vacation for a month.  I reached Cecile promptly.  She said she had gotten my email request and that their general policy is that they will give permission to republish as long as proper attribution is given.  She said she would respond by email shortly and asked how I would want it; whether a .pdf file, or text.  I said "text would be great."  She said she didn't think it would be a problem, but she wanted to check with the publisher. 

A few minutes ago I got an email from her saying this:

After reviewing your request, Journal Publishing prefers not to extend re-publication authorization for the column in question. Thanks for your inquiry. – Cecile Krimm, Editor, Journal Publishing

So this has gotten me to thinking:  Why would the Journal's publisher not want this fairly good editorial to get a wider audience?  Is there something in the editorial the publisher doesn't want somebody to read?  Is there something in it that might be viewed as unpopular with people who scare the publisher?  Or maybe it's me!  Could it be my deodorant?

So I'm gonna give you an exerpt from Ms. Krimm's editorial so we can talk about this intelligently...

It’s time for the state to declare northwestern North Dakota an economic disaster area -- not for lack of jobs or low wages – but a societal disease characterized by skyrocketing rents, an inadequate labor pool and the complete overwhelming of existing public infrastructure.

Within the disaster declaration, the number of drilling rigs operating at any time should be capped at 200.

Crazy? I don’t think so.

Expensive for the companies trying to maintain their leasehold? You bet.

This isn’t about wanting to go back to the way things used to be, but about the government taking steps to ensure basic public safety.

Department of Mineral Resources Director Lynn Helms last week threw out a figure of another 50 oil rigs coming on line in North Dakota this winter, which will require an additional 4,600 workers.

That may sound exciting to someone sitting in Bismarck, but from my vantage point it’s a little like telling Minot they better prepare for a bigger flood than the one that already swallowed 4,000 homes last year.

Helms is talking about flooding this region with an additional population equivalent to the current populations of Burke and Divide counties COMBINED.

We cannot take anymore.

"The Journal" (of Crosby, ND)  (This link will take you to the Crosby Journal's website, but not to this editorial. The editorial is not published on their website.) 

The rest of the editorial reads pretty much like this part.  Again, it's pretty good.  It points out many issues relating to the overburdened infrastructure in the northwest corner of the state.  It talks about the carnage.  It talks about polling results showing how unpopular additional development is amongst North Dakotans.  It's pretty well done.  

There's no mention of the pollution.  No mention of the disappearing wildlife.  Nothing about the possibility of impending earthquakes. But it's otherwise pretty good.

But the publisher doesn't want you to read about it here, apparently.  Sure, if you're one of the 400 readers of the Garrison newspaper you can read it.  Or if you are one of the 243 readers of The Journal of Crosby you could read it. Otherwise, good luck.

So... does anybody happen to know who the publisher of the Crosby Journal is?

Steve Andrist.

That name ring a bell for anybody?  Why wouldn't he follow The Journal's policy -- as explained to me by its editor -- of letting me reprint the entire editorial, so long as I give attribution?

(If you want to read the rest of the article, just stop in my office. They can't stop me from showing you my copy.)


Comments (21)add comment

big jake said:

...
Neanderthal's with a printing press are still Neanderthal's. Some appear today with a bible. Some appear in an expensive suit claiming that corporations are people too. Some preach the benefits of greed and attract quite a following.

What interesting times we live in. This too shall pass--the sooner the better.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: -1

Tracy Potter said:

Steve Andrist is a fine person
County papers have more like 3,000 subscribers. Probably a few more than that readers. I'd really like to have been a fly on the wall when Cecille (another fine person) went in to talk with Steve. Curious.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +4

Chet said:

Fine or not
I'm hoping your comment, Tracy, is a reaction to what Big Jake wrote and not to what I wrote. I did not say Steve or Cecille are "unfine." I also didn't say they were "fine." I don't know either of them.

But fine or not, they did something here that is not fine. As I noted when I wrote in my story about the Fargo Forum giving the "Person of the Year" award to David Berg, good people are not immune from doing really bad things now and then and bad people are not immune from doing good things now and then. I don't know whether Cecille or Steve are good people doing bad things, or bad people who didn't do a good thing here but who sometimes do.

It really doesn't matter. My point is that they've done a bad thing and it reflects poorly on them and their newspaper, whether they are "fine" or not. In this case, that is unfortunate for everybody; not just them. I wrote what I wrote because it is the truth. From the private feedback I've gotten from people by email and phone, I'm pretty comfortable in knowing the Journal has done something offensive and I am right to question what they've done and/or be critical.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +3

nimrod said:

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Well, I talked to my Dad, and my Dad said it shouldn't be circulated.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +0

big jake said:

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Sometimes I make presumptions that I should not. I presume that most everybody holds the same belief as I do regarding the right to free speech. It is a god-given right that the Founder's saw fit to include in the ingenious and inspired document called the Constitution.

This little incident in Crosby is just that ---small. But it is significant while certainly not new. Any act such as this tarnishes our national character no matter how small it is. We, as Franklin so wisely said must engage in eternal vigilance. No matter what your political philosophy is, our system requires sunlight to disinfect. Andrist is infected--is it a short term bug or something more longlasting? Time will tell.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +2

Jason said:

This is not freedom of speech
Free speech does not cover a plagiarizer. Chet did the right thing to ask and did the right thing not to reprint it. It is in no way a stifling of free speech.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +0

big jake said:

...
Chet,, if you are that easy to get you to bite, I might up the ante.

For the record, I regard the service that you are providing as one of the most important contributions for the betterment of our state that is going today.

I hope I can make some contribution to a constructive and much needed dialogue.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +0

big jake said:

...
Jason, you have returned. Still confused I see. The issue here is not plagarism. Where in the hell did you get that?

The issue is the Publisher has, as is his right to do, stifled free speech. Just because you possess that right does not mean that Andrist is doing the right thing. His community should be asking him why. That includes his fellow publishers and editors.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +1

big jake said:

...
Jason, you have returned. Still confused I see. The issue here is not plagarism. Where in the hell did you get that?

The issue is the Publisher has, as is his right to do, stifled free speech. Just because you possess that right does not mean that Andrist is doing the right thing. His community should be asking him why. That includes his fellow publishers and editors.
 
January 05, 2012
Votes: +0

Boomerang said:

...
I understand all of the problems with development in the oil patch and yes, they bring up 'grave' concerns.

To suggest a cap on drilling rigs brings up another point, if that would come to fruition what would be next?

In our society once you start down the 'slippery' slope you begin the slide, and end up with inintended results when you hit the bottom.
 
January 08, 2012
Votes: -1

Chet said:

The slippery slope fallacy...
If you have ever driven between Bismarck and Minot during the day, you've probably seen the scarred landscape at the intersection of Highways 83 and 37. You may or may not know that the scarring you see is what the coal companies used to leave behind before Art Link (and people like Art Link) instituted rules and laws requiring coal companies to be stewards of the land (and clean up after themselves). You may or may not know that coal mining (like oil production) can leave behind completely unusable land. You may or may not know there's plenty more like the Hwy 83/37 intersection in coal country. You may or may not know the hypocritical, big government, tax and spend members of our P.S.C. recently asked for millions of federal tax dollars from our already overextended federal government to try to reclaim -- "fix" -- that scarring.

I was just a kid when Art Link was governor. I don't have any memories of what the critics of Link were saying back then, but I'd bet $20 one of their criticisms back then was that if you let the government regulate coal development, the next thing they'll do is try to shut it down. "It's a slippery slope," I'd bet they were nonsensically screaming.

When the PSC asks the federal government for millions of dollars in federal money so the government can fix the damage done by coal companies back in the 50s and 60s, it's essentially corporate welfare. We are paying to clean up THEIR messes. I'm against that. Anybody who is fiscally responsible is against that.

Do you have any idea what kinds of reclamation laws we have that burden the oil companies in western NoDak? Nearly none.

This whole "slippery slope" argument with respect to regulating destructive business practices is nonsense.

If we allow the government to regulate doctors, pretty soon the government will eliminate all doctors. If we allow the government to regulate how fast we can drive on the roads, pretty soon we won't be allowed to drive on roads. If we allow the government to regulate insurance agents and stock brokers, pretty soon we won't have any insurance agents and stock brokers. If we allow the government to regulate how much poison factories (or pig farms) can pump into our air, water and ground, pretty soon we won't have any factories (or pig farms). If we allow the government to regulate coal mining reclamation, pretty soon we won't have any coal companies.

All of this is nonsense, and everybody but Ron Paul and his insane clown posse knows it.
 
January 08, 2012
Votes: +2

nimrod said:

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If oil production in the US is exceeding domestic capacity to process and use the oil domestically, resulting in the US exporting oil (which is happening now), it would seem pretty smart to limit domestic production and extend the life of the field, instead of exporting Bakken oil. But then again, there are a bunch of nimrods in Bismarck and Washington who are vehemently opposed to having a national energy policy.
 
January 09, 2012
Votes: +0

Chet said:

GF Herald
Chuck Haga of the Grand Forks Herald picked up on this story on Friday/Saturday. Here's a snippet:

The Crosby Journal column has been reprinted in at least one other western weekly newspaper and has aroused some blog comment in the region. Journal Publisher Steve Andrist said most of the response Krimm received was positive.

“It was a good, provocative column,” he said. “It raised some issues about our state’s leadership and how active they ought to be in examining what is an appropriate level of development, and then taking steps to try to achieve that level of development.”

Andrist joined the discussion with a column of his own.
Grand Forks Herald

It "aroused some blog comment"? Wonder where that was. I haven't seen it on any blogs anywhere.

I should tell you folks this, too: I got an email from Ms. Krimm. Here's what her note said "It has been brought to our attention today that there is a factual error in the excerpt of The Journal column you have on your blog. The figures attributed to Helms should be 30 rigs and 3,600 people."

I sent her a note back telling her she should feel free to post a comment if she felt her new information was somehow better. I told her our readers would probably appreciate knowing who the new source is, as would we.

I'll tell you that I talked to a relative of mine last week. He works in the oil field. He said he'd been told one company plans to bring an additional 50 rigs into North Dakota in 2012.

You can do what you want, but I'll believe my relative before I'll believe the Journal's anonymous source.
 
January 09, 2012
Votes: +0

Norma Louise Carter said:

The problem is not you.
I would not take the Journal personnel seriously. It is just the way they are. I have lived in North Dakota for eleven years, and have learned through sufferings just to ignore that lot. They will never change, unless, God has mercy upon them. They are, in my opinion, a cold-hearted lot, who like to keep to their own kind. And their kind I certainly do not want to be around. I like myself way too much smilies/smiley.gif
 
August 15, 2013
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Norma Louise Carter said:

My Further Opinion
I do think "The Journal" is despotic in that it assumes to be the voice of the people of northwestern North Dakota. It is certainly not my voice. My voice is Christian conservative.

It would be a release from the oppression from the thought police of "The Journal" if a conservative news source, whether on the internet or not, would gain some ground in reporting not only local news, but current world news of interest to northwestern North Dakotan Christian conservatives, yet allowing diversifying opinions to be voiced.

I, myself, like the good, healthy argument, and for any good argument to take place one must hear from all sides, because it is the contrast that I encounter that always sharpens my already sharp edge in the debate of worthwhile contending.

I just happened to notice this article today. I am new to this site, and when I have more time I will read some of the articles.
 
August 15, 2013
Votes: +0

Norma Louise Carter said:

My Own Personal Complaint Concerning "The Journal"
I was treated very unkindly by the staff of "The Journal" newspaper. As far as it pertains to me, I do not think they are for free speech that differs from what they believe.

I was treated very harshly by Cecille Krimm. And I think it is because I voiced my view against beer and alcohol drinking, the "bubbly" that a Crosby arts council advertises, and the move of some local investors, who intend to open a liquor store for the sole purpose to get the new oil field workers drunk, that is, these investors want to profit by harming newcomers with the organ-damaging toxins of beer and alcohol.

I felt in her written attack against my person that she did her best to frame me for things that I did not say, since she evidently did not take time to even hear what I had to say. She said that I was name calling, and if she took time to hear what I said, the only name that was derogatory that I used was a name I called myself just for the fun of it. But I guess she could not comprehend my speaking, and that might because I have a higher intelligent quotient than she has.

I am not in the oil field, but I do not like how the City of Crosby is reacting to certain oil field newcomers, who have not even arrived in Crosby as of this date. The city's so-called elite, and that elitism is only in their own view of themselves, seem to me that they are experiencing an emotional, prejudicial and delusional offense towards these oil field workers, who are to live in an indoor trailer compound that has a lot of day-to-day conveniences.

I just do not like how these new ones, who are not even here yet, are being treated. That is, the City of Crosby has already criminalized them, when no crime by any of them has even been committed.

It is a true Earth to Mars situation up here.

A while back "The Journal" gave away two free issues of its paper. The purpose of this give-a-way was to attract newcomers to purchase this paper. Yet, there were two articles that were very derogatory to the newcomers in these two free papers. I could not and will not,in good conscience before God, Who rules heaven and earth, recommend this paper to any newcomers.

It was clear to me, that "The Journal" covets the money of the newcomers, but it cares less indeed for the newcomers as integral members of the community, that is, the newcomers will always be considered newcomers of no account even if they live here for more than eleven years.

But is that not what North Dakota is all about anyhow? I think it is.

North Dakota is a good state in my view since it is for traditional marriages and because "The Personhood Amendment" to our state's constitution is to be voted on this fall. Because of these two things, I rate North Dakota as the best state in the United States. I boast publicly about North Dakota because of these two things.

Yet, North Dakota has a big problem. This problem has taken root in North Dakota a long time ago by North Dakotan born citizens. The problem is the beer and alcohol problem. But it does not end here, but it overflows into bad language, and stupidity. I say stupidity, because a great number of North Dakotans are losing brain cells daily, because they drink beer and alcohol. And to make it sad for me, as an eleven-year newcomer, I have to live around people that have lost a lot of their brain functioning. I have hardly no one to talk to at my level of educated interests in North Dakota.

Even so, the Lord Jesus Christ takes good care of me, and even though I have to suffer around a lot of brain-damaged North Dakotans, the Lord has preserved a remnant of North Dakotans of the Christian faith from this wide-spread problem of alcohol abuse, and they have been so kind to me, and they are what makes North Dakota the great state that it indeed is.


 
August 15, 2013
Votes: +0

Norma Louise Carter said:

Is Steve Andrist a Nice Person?
Steve Andrist is a nice person in a sense. And he is very intelligent, that is, he knows a lot about things that a lot of people do not know about. He was an Eagle Scout. He is not a criminal. I do not think he uses bad words in his speech.

In my own opinion, I think, he is a very controlling person. I think he enjoys controlling what articles can be reprinted It is his way or the highway. I will opt-out for the long, pleasant walk on the highway of my own self-worth, than to succumb to the prison of his thoughts and beliefs of how life should be apart from what the Bible says as he advances his own ideal of small-town politics upon us week-by-week in his weekly editorial of propaganda of self-interest.

I like his father a lot better than I like him. His father is a lot smarter and a lot nicer than Steve is. His father goes by the Bible.

Steve has defended freedom of the press. He has defended the right of his reporters to take photographs.

Steve is really a nice person, and I do not think he means any harm to anyone. He was really nice to me one day, when I needed copies to be made. He treated me with respect, and I thought he was a nice gentleman. But once I read that he drinks beer occasionally, and that when his son graduated from high school that he allowed his son as an initiating rite into manhood to drink beer with him ---so much for setting a good example for the young people.

How many young people this year in North Dakota will be killed for driving drunk? How many drunks in North Dakota will kill innocent people when they drive under the influence? Why are there not too many men in North Dakota who are taking a godly stand against beer and alcohol? The only men that I have heard speaking up against it are the men in law enforcement, because they have seen first-hand the damage that beer and alcohol causes.

I think Steve Andrist, when he owned "The Journal," was a good boss to his people. He is a good husband to his wife, whom he thinks the world of, and he is a good son to his father, that is, he supports his father's political interests, even though as father and son, they do not agree point-by-point on the issues, since his father is a conservative Republican/Libertarian sort, and Andrist is, in my view, a liberal Democrat, who needs to start going by what the Bible says.

My brother would probably be a best friend to Steve Andrist, that is, my brother is a Democrat and knows a lot about state and local government especially the financial part in relation to the citizenry, and the corporations. My brother, sorry to say, would probably drink a beer with Steve Andrist. They would get a long just fine. Cecille would like my brother too, and I am sure they would have all have a nice dinner together at the Lodge of the Moose, as they partake of that Devil's brew as they indulge in the fascinating and twinkling moment of the high=mindedness of their temporal, vain fare.

Steve is a good provider. He is a good father, who cares about his children's education and he is a good grandfather. He is a good neighbor. He has helped many people financially by raising money for hospital bills. His wife is or was a county health nurse,who,I hope, realizes the dangers of vaccines, but I think that at this time she is only a mere governmental automaton, yet she might be a lot smarter than I think she is.

Steve's mother died of cancer a few years ago. He was very good to his mother, and attended to her needs by traveling long distances.

He is an advisor now to "The Journal," since recently this paper was sold to Cecille Krimm. I think she might take her marching orders from him behind the scenes. They are close friends and will die fighting to defend each other no matter how wrong either of them might be. Cecille is a Democrat too. I think she drinks "the Bubbly," since her editorial column is called, "Wine and Roses." I think the new DA, Elizabeth Pendley, drinks "the Bubbly" too, that is, I saw recently a photograph of her at the arts council party holding a wine-type glass that contained liquid of a colored-clear color.

I am sure that these two women are only social drinkers, but I am not impressed by either of them. Their high-paying salaried jobs do not give them a free pass. They are both accountable to God, and as public figures they need to set the example for the young people. But instead, their example set for the young people is to drink brain-cell killing toxins responsibly.

As I said, there is no need for any one to take these, who are for the social drink, seriously. I mean really who cares to have any of the articles, besides the recipes, reprinted? We need to turn this country around, and bring it out from its stupor of drunkenness; for our nation is in fast decline, and once the foundations are all removed, what will the righteous do?
 
August 15, 2013
Votes: +0

Norma Louise Carter said:

Is Cecille Krimm a Nice Person?
Cecille Krimm, I am sure, is a very nice person towards her family and friends, and to her subscribers of her paper, and to those who are of her kind.

I feel sorry for her to be honest. I am thankful to the Lord that I am not her. I think she is not going to stand at all on judgment day before the Lord. I do not think she is ready for the Lord to come. I think she is seeking from this temporal world true peace, joy and satisfaction that can never be found in this world. I think she needs Christ and she needs to read a real Bible, and not set up herself as an authority of the Bible in her articles. She is one of the most ignorant women than I have ever met when it comes to what makes up a real Bible and what makes up a false Bible.

We are just very different people. I love her in the sense that I hope she comes to know the Lord Jesus Christ in a substantial way. But for now, I pity her. I do not like her stand, nor do I like her mind-set.

But overall she is a nice person, and I think in her correspondence she comes across harsh and cold. I think if you were to meet her face-to-face, you would be warmed by her kind eyes, and her loving, good heart.

I hope this information concerning "The Journal" has been helpful, and believe me, it is not you Chet. It is just them. We all just have to suffer until the Lord comes for us. I just avoid them all. And that is why I have survived.
 
August 15, 2013
Votes: +0

Norma Louise Carter said:

My Correction, etc
I am sorry. The name of Cecille's editorial column is "Whine and Roses" instead of "Wine and Roses." I suppose she has chosen that word "Whine," because whining is the way for her to express herself.

To her credit, she is an outstanding journalist, and has always gone the extra mile in pursuit of a story. She has even endangered her life, when she has had to travel through numerous snow storms, and has often driven into the ditch. She is a local woman of vain popularity, who has many friends, which friends I have no desire to be around, since not one of them is my true friend, nor do they have what it takes to be my friend.

Most of the people around here that are of my peer group, I find to be not too well-educated, know-it-alls (that is, stunted in their learning), vain, ungodly, cliquish, full of jealousy and envy, and in the sins of false witnessing and covetousness. The ones that I know that are educated are not very kind.

I just have to stay separated from them to preserve my good mental health, which I do possess. I like the older North Dakotans a lot better. They are very nice.

It is a time of change in North Dakota. Many of the old comers are afraid and sometimes I am afraid too of what might happen when more new people come here. I know that among them there might be some criminals, but for the most part, I think, that most of them are just men and women doing their best to take care of their families by providing for them.

I think "The Journal" needs to make some changes that welcomes the newcomers instead of speaking words of rejection towards them. People are not going to give their hard-earned money to people that treat them like trash. New people here can easily bypass the "The Journal" by seeking information on the internet. I think Cecille Krimm needs to realize this, and do a serious about face as much as a civilian can muster, by welcoming the new people and by using the internet and the information it offers in her paper's favor. That is, her paper could had been advertised for free by you, Chet, if she allowed you to reprint an article. If a person sees that a local newspaper is person friendly and kind to strangers, they are more likely to subscribe to it, instead of rejecting it.

I think Cecille has become stunted in her learning. She needs to realize that she has a lot to learn, and that she does not know it all, especially concerning the Bible. She boasted in her article concerning her reading devotion to "The People" magazine, which sums her up as far as I can acknowledge.

I would put Cecille's name first on the Apostle Paul's list of women that need to keep quiet and not to teach concerning the Bible. I would also add a lot of the names of men to that list of exclusion, which list is so needed today.

Everything that I have written here, I have written about publicly to them already, but not in the exact words, excepting, of course, the mention of the photographs concerning the women at a Crosby arts council, who were drinking of "the bubbly."

Pitiful.

Anyhow, I am tired of the status quo here. I am not of it, nor do I support it. I think I have done the wise thing to stay separated from it.






 
August 15, 2013
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gun totin' librul said:

libtard
geezus....who is this norma louise carter......?????
 
September 16, 2013
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Norma Louise Carter said:

Answer
I am Norma Louise Carter. Do you know "gun totin' librul" that you took the name of Jesus in vain when you wrote the slang that you wrote. It is a very terrible sin to take the name of the Lord in vain. If I were you I would tell the Lord Jesus that you are sorry, and never, never take His Name in vain again.

 
September 17, 2013
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