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Turns out.... if we weren't already, we really are turning into a "nation of know-nothings"...
And -- as usual -- the Bismarck Tribune, it's favored Letter-to-the-Editor authors and it's right wing editors join the stupid, knuckle-dragging side show. What's frustrating is that Republican leaders -- like Newt Gingrich and John Hoeven -- know all of this, and they love it. You don't know, do you? Know why? Because when voters are stupid, John Hoeven and New Gingrich are happy. Like it or lump it. May God save us from ourselves.
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J. Lock
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I think you mean Gingrich I think you mean Gingrich is often divorced . . . . . (You must have had a Conservative proofreader . . . ) |
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Sto Again
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... While we're offering quotes: “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.” -Sir Winston Churchill. I'm excited to see how many negative votes I get out of this. |
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What the Heck
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that's why Many are now independents. So we can have hearts and brains. Too bad we have so few candidates or politicians who can use both at the same time. |
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Marty
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liberals and conservatives Ran across this today; thought it was interesting: http://plainblogaboutpolitics....ulses.html "... we belong to groups ... These groups, as groups, hold positions on issues of public policy, sometimes out of self-interest, sometimes out of custom or habit. We tend to adopt the positions of the groups with which we identify, or with which our groups are allied, or which leaders of those groups profess publicly. Then we go back and find justifications for why that basket of issue positions go together. That's not a bad thing.... ... "But ... I do think that there's something authentically different between liberals and conservatives, at least some of the time, and at least in some cases. If not first principles, though, perhaps we can call them impulses. To me, the liberal impulse is basically: We Can Do Better. And the conservative impulse? Don't Make It Worse. Liberals, or perhaps all of us when we're inspired by the liberal impulse, look around and see a variety of problems and available resources and want to alleviate pain and suffering; they want to solve problems. Conservatives, or perhaps all us us when we're inspired by the conservative impulse, remember all the cases of noble intentions gone awry, the cases of unintended consequences, the cases in which problems seemed terribly severe but then they seemingly melted away without anyone, and certainly not everyone collectively, trying to address them. Liberals appreciate the promise of the future; conservatives appreciate how rickety the accomplishments of the present are, and how easily what we think is safe can be destroyed." |
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AdamfromND
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... Actually stu that Churchill quote doesn't really apply to america now because that quote is over 40 years old and had nothing to do with neo con conservatism that we have today. If Churchill was alive today he would revise his quote; "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no brain, if you're not a conservative at 40 then you have a very big brain." |
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J. Lock
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What I was thinking: When I read this post, which basically insults all who disagree with your Progressive agenda, I thought about writing a response. Krauthammer saved me the trouble: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/244882/last-refuge-liberal-charles-krauthammer |
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Chet
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Point well taken... I would like to formally apologize to all the racist, nativist, homophobic, Islamophobes whose feelings may have been hurt by this blog post. Please accept my apology. Save the 2 minutes it might take you to read Krauthammer's rant. Here's a summary: "The truth hurts, and conservatives don't like pain." |
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Marty
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Interesting I will throw Krauthammer and JLock this bone: I agree the racism debate (i.e, whether the Tea Party is or is not fueled by racism) is old and tired. I do believe the Tea Party would exist in very much its current form if some other (white) Democrat were in office and accomplished or tried to accomplish what Obama has. The signs would have been different and some of the true biggots might not have shown up, but the rallies and the movement would still be going on, with as much vigor. What frustrates me about the Tea Party movement is that the same could not be said if a moderate Republican had been elected and had accomplished what Obama has accomplished. In that case, there would be no Tea Party. And please don't try to tell me no Republican would have pushed Obama's agenda -- TARP was Bush's baby; Medicare Part D was Bush's baby; spending trillions in Iraq was Bush's idea; Obamacare modeled Romneycare and universal healthcare has been pushed by a whole lot of Republicans through the years; the economists who were the architects of the Reagan taxcuts supported the Stimulus and advocated for more. Obama's accomplishments have not been far left-leaning. But Krauthammer isn't paid to be intellectually honest about things like that. I confess, Krauthammer is right in a couple regards. I do attribute support of Prop 8 to homophobia. Sorry, I just can't make sense of it otherwise. Perhaps you could help me understand how I am wrong, JLock. Likewise I can't for the life of me make sense of the opposition to the mosque, so yeah, I guess I attribute it to Islamophobia. What are my other options, again? |
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Vertigo
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... "I would like to formally apologize to all the racist, nativist, homophobic, Islamophobes whose feelings may have been hurt by this blog post. " Testy, testy, testy! It looks like Krauthammer is on to something. |
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gun toting Liberal
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fly in the repub/neocon soup I also would like to formally apologize to all the racist, nativist, homophobic, Islamophobes whose feelings may have been hurt by this blog post...heheh...the only thing krauthammer/whatever is 'on to' is pointing out (however unwittingly) the composition of the teabaggers and those who support them... |
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